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Just wanted to say thanks for this write up.

I HATE always having to Polish the lower forks. Been wanting to chrome them out for the longest. This will be my winter project.
 
Thanks for the write up. Just replaced seals couple of weeks ago and referenced your post. Also used manual for torque specs.
 
Thanks for the write up and part numbers. Noticed some small oil spots on the garage floor last weekend when pulling the bike out. Didn't see where it was coming from until I got back from a 200 mile ride. One of the front forks on my 06 VTX 1300 R was dripping oil. I guess at 10 years and 60,000 miles it's time to do mine too. ;-) Was glad it was the left side and not the right. At least the left one doesn't drip on the brake rotor like the right one might especially while parked on the kickstand.
 
great write up!

quick question: you said get a new guide busing instead of putting the old one back in because its a bear to get the old one back in....so why isn't a bear to get the new one back in?
 
great write up!

quick question: you said get a new guide busing instead of putting the old one back in because its a bear to get the old one back in....so why isn't a bear to get the new one back in?
toasted' hasn't been on the forum since July of last year, reason unknown... so, don't know if you'll get an answer... just read it for the first time myself, and this IS a great write up! I also don't understand why the difference between putting back the old bushing vs. a new one. He said, "When you take the forks apart the guide bushing expands back and is a bear to put back in without said tool. But, the easy and much cheaper way is to buy new guide bushings." He must mean "contracts" not "expands"?? But, that still doesn't explain it... anybody know?
 
Thanks for resurrecting this thread! I wish that I had this when I rebuilt my forks two months ago.

Here is the relevant part of that thread;
Done! It took ALL day, but I'm done. I'm glad that I looked into this, because it was the beginning of a more seroius problem.

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The main issue with the right fork is that the guide bushing (the upper bushing in the fork) must have been loose. The slider bushing (the lower bushing) as a result of the fork not being aligned properly, was SHOT! Here is a comparison on the right bushings and the left bushings (installed on the fork tube);
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New bushings in place, and old bushings in the background;
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And this is what they looked like removed:
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I believe that the trick was getting the upper guide bushing fully seated. I seated the bushing by placing a flat screwdriver blade on top of the bushing, and set the bushing by GENTLY pounding the bushing into its seat. Here is a picture of me seating the bushing;
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You may notice the pile of oil and dust seals in the background. That is because I buggered the All Balls seals while incorrectly trying to seat the bushing. In the end, I used the OEM Honda seals, but think that the All Balls seals would have worked just as well.

Here is a comparison picture of the seals, showing both the Honda and the All Balls;
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While I was here, I cleaned the rear wheel, and replaced the drive dampers.
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After completing the work, I took the bike out for a brief test drive. I was amazed when I crossed the gutter in front of the driveway, because I am used to a "clunk" every time that I cross. After installing the new bushings and seals, no clunk!
I believe that 'toasted' put the old bushing on top of the new bushing, and applied pressure to that (hammer? / screw driver? :shrug:) to seat the new bushing. You can see in my pictures (above) that the bushing is split, and it expands when you let go of it. I seated my bushing with a flat screwdriver blade. So far, so good, but the danger of slipping and scratching the forks is real. I was careful (and lucky).
 
eherlihy, thanks for the info!

few questions (i have a 07 vtx 1300R):
1) how do you know what parts to order before you take the forks apart? i have oil dripping at the bottom of my fork cover.
2a) looks like i will have to take the forks apart to know if any of the bushings are bad...i wonder what would be a sign of bad busings...? you have a 1300 as well, right? so using the screw driver, did you have to apply a lot of force to get the bushing to seat? i guess i could add masking tape on the tip before using it to apply pressure...?
2b) what fork oil - weight and manufacture did you use?
3) how did you post your post from another thread here?
4) its been a very long time, but I've forgot how to a picture from google photos here...any quick direction on how i can do that?
 
eherlihy, thanks for the info!

few questions (i have a 07 vtx 1300R):
1) how do you know what parts to order before you take the forks apart? i have oil dripping at the bottom of my fork cover.
You're welcome.

Do what I do; if there is any doubt that a part may, or may not, be needed, order it anyway. In the worst case (you don't need it, and don't want to install it) you can send it back. This is FAR better than not ordering it and needing it, in which case you have to submit another order, and will be down for a longer time period. I ordered seals (two sets!) and bushings for this job, and was glad that I had ordered everything. This is also FAR less expensive than taking the bike to the dealer.

2) looks like i will have to take the forks apart to know if any of the bushings are bad...i wonder what would be a sign of bad busings...? you have a 1300 as well, right? so using the screw driver, did you have to apply a lot of force to get the bushing to seat? i guess i could add masking tape on the tip before using it to apply pressure...?
leaking forks, and a 'clunk' when you hit a bump are both signs of bad bushings. Yes I have an '05 1300S - now with whitewalls! All that I had to do was tap the back of the screwdriver with my hand to get the upper bushing to seat. Masking tape WOULD be advisable.

3) how did you post your post from another thread here?
4) its been a very long time, but I've forgot how to a picture from google photos here...any quick direction on how i can do that?
The answer to both is that I am a freaking genius!:bleh:

Use the '
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Thanks!

it use to work, but now with google photos, i can't seem to make it work...even when i use the share option.

how did you share your reply in another thread into another thread.
 
any suggestions on fork oil: redline 10wt or amsoil 10wt or OEM?
 
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any suggestions on fork oil: redline 10wt or amsoil 10wt or OEM?
I went with a 50/50 mix of 10W and 15W Fuchs Silkolene, to 'up' the weight... a very premium fork oil, I think... very happy with it!! :cheers:
 
after reading through, i see that some have used 10wt and some have used 15wt and have blended...so what are you thoughts on these questions:

==> i am using progressive springs and the taller pvc shim length they suggest in their instructions (when compared to the metal shim that comes out with the stock spring)

1) how important is it go with 10wt? going to 15wt does that mean i have slower dampening because the oil is thicker and slower at moving?

2) how important is to put 15.5oz in the fork, can i simply put 16oz (half of a bottle) instead?
 
after reading through, i see that some have used 10wt and some have used 15wt and have blended...so what are you thoughts on these questions:

==> i am using progressive springs and the taller pvc shim length they suggest in their instructions (when compared to the metal shim that comes out with the stock spring)

1) how important is it go with 10wt? going to 15wt does that mean i have slower dampening because the oil is thicker and slower at moving?

2) how important is to put 15.5oz in the fork, can i simply put 16oz (half of a bottle) instead?
1) 15W = more damping (amplitude dissipation) - response time is imperceptible

2) I simply split a mixed (10W/15W) quart between the two forks and the level was correct (stock springs and spacers) - I used the 'first' mixed quart to "flush and drain"
 
1) 15W = more damping (amplitude dissipation) - response time is imperceptible

2) I simply split a mixed (10W/15W) quart between the two forks and the level was correct (stock springs and spacers) - I used the 'first' mixed quart to "flush and drain"
Is that a new radio thing?:shrug:
 
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1) 15W = more damping (amplitude dissipation) - response time is imperceptible

2) I simply split a mixed (10W/15W) quart between the two forks and the level was correct (stock springs and spacers) - I used the 'first' mixed quart to "flush and drain"
^^^ ...that's "change in response time" is imperceptible, to be more precise... :cheers:
 
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